Although you have been hiding in our blog under various names, such as Common, Stop the Anger, and now anonymous, your identity has been pretty obvious by your comments. Your accusations on other blogs such as the Ledger blog about us screening comments and selecting only the ones we want to post are unfounded. We realized that many individuals were receiving error messages from blogger due to the default settings on blogger requiring a blogger ID to post comments. In attempts to fix this issue we found out how to open the blog up to everyone including anonymous comments, but opted to require moderation on comments to prevent profanity and other spam from littering the blog. This is normal blog protocol and the same protocol exercised on the Ledger blog that you like so much.
Regarding the facts behind our opinions on dissolving the city, the information we have gathered to date on this issue is found throughout this blog and was also handed out and explained at the petition signing in the park that you chose not to attend. We try to add to this information daily to keep the public informed. Instead of baiting us to open mouth, insert foot so you can pick our arguments apart, why don’t the city officials provide the public with updated information regarding current city debt figures and allow the public to ask questions during meetings instead of hiding behind a perceived veil of secrecy? Try being proactive on this matter instead of reactive and the people will respond in kind. On our blog, why don’t you post reasons and financial numbers in favor of keeping the city? We have tried to find them and honestly can’t find any strong enough reasons to change our minds.
In regards to the outbursts in the Friday night’s meeting, those comments were from many outraged and frustrated citizens trying to get answers to questions and concerns the City Council refused to entertain. If the City Council let the people speak, maybe the public would not be so frustrated and feel that the outbursts were their only way to be heard. The constitution protects the public’s freedom of speech. The gathering at the park, running our blog, answering media questions, and requesting that the public contact government officials about how they feel the city is being run are just the way we have chosen to express ourselves. You too can start your own blog for free at www.blogger.com. It is available to everyone and very user friendly. This same freedom of speech can be exercised by city officials to keep the public informed of what is going on and answering the public’s questions when asked instead of hiding behind procedures and misquoting Sunshine Law saying that they are not able to discuss some of these issues with the public. The Mayor misquoted the Sunshine Law to a few residents right in front of me during the petition signing as a reason not to answer their legitimate questions. The Sunshine Law is in place to keep public officials from discussing issues amongst themselves without the public’s knowledge in order to maintain transparent government, not the opposite.
Absolutely no efforts were made to prevent the Mayor Joe LaCascia from passing out any literature. If you would have taken the time to show up to the park yourself, you would have seen what happened. Two of your volunteers were at the park bright and early Saturday morning with your literature to hand out to the public. We did not discourage this at all. After we spoke with your volunteers about the thinking behind our point of view, and the fact that most of the public were just handing the literature right back to them, they decided that they no longer wanted to pass out this literature and handed it to the Mayor shortly after he arrived. People who showed up to the petition signing had concerns that this literature was produced using tax payer dollars without their consent, which is illegal. Those are the facts about why your literature did not get handed out as you had planned at our petition signing.
We feel there has been dialog and respect from our group. As far as working towards a common goal, why not try listening to the majority of the people and find a peaceful and less costly way to dissolve the city instead of hiring legal council to fight multiple groups costing the tax payers even more money and trying to keep the city running like “business as usual.” If the city is so financially sound, why did an “emergency” meeting have to be called to discuss how to pay a bill that was two years overdue? According to state statute 120.525 “emergency” meetings are reserved only for instances when an agency finds that an immediate danger to the public health, safety, or welfare requires immediate action. How to pay an overdue bill in attempts to prevent the Governor from being notified to declare a financial state of emergency, which will in essence put a stop to all city spending and require the city to come up with a plan to get out of its financial hole, does not fall under that “emergency” definition, nor does it give the public confidence that the city is as financially sound as you say.
If there are so many others, as you say, that feel the same way you do about saving the city and all the good it stands for, they are free to express themselves on our blog just like everyone else. I have not seen many other pro-city comments other than yours.
I would just like to Comment on the post regarding angery comments. I believe that a large number of city and county residents are angery. Why wouldn't we be? The town has been mismanaged for years and look at the cost. It may not affect some residents, but I believe it is causing an impact on a large majority. It is only common sense to want the spending to stopped.
ReplyDeleteWe know the new Council has worked hard, but see that if the city continues on this path that in the end it will fall on us the tax payers.
I'm concerned that the council is so determined they are losing site of the cost to the residents.
The County Commisioners have had alot more experience running a much larger government and they feel that Polk City just does not have a large enough tax base to support the water and sewer utility and continue to manage our current debt. Our City council does not seem to want to face that reality.
It may cost us to abolish the city, but it will be a fixed rate and we will not be adding to the cost to every resident. We can not continue to absorb the costs you are putting on residents. fees, taxes, rate hikes.
The mayor may not mind paying $2200 in taxes to the town, as he said at the meeting. But it is getting unaffordable for a large number of us. Not to mention the cost of the water rates. Just to have water this summer while I am away is costing me $91.06 with out using a drop. That is over $1000 a year. When I'm there and using the water it will cost me well over $2000 a year and thats if we conserve. I will no longer water my lawn. Now they won't even allow us to have a well to help reduce costs.
So not all of us can afford. We where looking forward to retirement but not now.
Just how I feel. Ann Huke
This blog was opened to the public. As I see it, ALL citizens are welcome to add comments in fact ANYONE from Florida to California can add comments.
ReplyDeleteWhy the anger over comments that might lead to answering questions that we are asking among ourselves? Why not seek out the answers that you admit you do not have rather than encouraging us to jump into a decision that may end up costing us dearly? I would never drive my car into water without knowing how deep the water is. Why not work together toward truth ...we continue to wait to hear the truth rather than conjecture.
Your assumption that all of the comments came from Ms. Block is not only inaccurate, but upsetting as your blog states that comments can be added anonymously.
Your assumption was not only wrong, but I am honored that I am asking the same questions that others have added. I have heard that Polk City residents cannot be fooled so why when the tough questions get asked do the writers of this blog duck by once again throwing up smoke and mirrors to take the focus off the real question....HOW MUCH IS DISSOLUTION REALLY GOING TO COST EACH CITIZEN? EACH HOME? I am not backing this move until I have the numbers.
I imagine the past Polk CIty administration must read what we are doing to ourselves with smiles on their faces. All of this arose from decisions they made and the focus never focused on their actions.
ReplyDeleteHow many years were given the old administration to get to this point of trouble.....and....how many weeks have we given to our new leaders to try to recover?
No one asked the past administration the tough questions and look where we are. This administration had to assess the "damage," seek out solutions, and start laying new framework. How does this movement work WITH what they found? Let's learn from our mistakes and ask the tough questions and just maybe we are on the same page.
Fantastic response , question to trudy block and mayor joe ...why , folks living just outside city limits are not citizens but pay for water and sewer in the city or work inside the city, are called outsiders? don't that make anyone not born in polk city fl, outsiders too,
ReplyDeletemaybe there should be new rules for being in office in pc. like you must have lived in polk city for at least 10 years,
ann huke the mayor only pays 2,200 in taxes ?
ReplyDeletesomething wrong with that picture, they live in a gated community on a property worth over $500.000 dollars and only pay 2,200..are those numbers correct? wish my taxes were that low,
Just to clear the statement I made about The \Mayors $2,200 taxes. I got that figure from the video of the meeting at the Polk County commisioners last week. The mayor stated " he paid 6k in taxes of which $2,200 were paid to Polk City and that he didn't mind." Thats what I wrote on this blog. he pays $2,200 to the town. In any event that is high in my opion for what we get????????
ReplyDeleteAnn Huke
Ann Huke
I don't know who wrote the blog dated 9/19/ but is was articulate, well written and expresses for many of us what we have wanted to say for a long time.
ReplyDeleteFor the months of July and August I was billed right at $600.00 (I am a widow living alone in a 1300 sq ft home). So that I would not have to contunue paying sewage for my irrigation system I had to shell out close to $300.00 more (and the city employee told me gleefully that I did not own the meter I paid for)for a meter. This was never made clear to me or the contractor who installed my system (this man installs irrigation systems all over polk county) and he said he has never seen this kind of price gouging in his life. To connect the irrigation line to the water line so that the meters could accurately measure not only how much water was being used but actual sewer usage also I paid $800.00. $1700.00 is a great deal of money to me and it takes me 1 1/2 months to net that much cash. You know what the kind, civil, city employee's did when I expressed my frustration (never yelling or cursing)? They sneered and treated me in the most vile and condescending manner I have ever seen. So when the city folks get huffy with the bloggers, my reaction is..."oh, well!"
I was married to the mechanical systems inspector for a city with a population of 200K and I have no prejudice against civil govt. employees, but I have never seen a city that had such contempt for it's residence and tax base.
Just FYI city EEs...you folks are not king of the hill, and cities have been dissolved before...it could not happen to a finer group of folks!!!
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ReplyDeleteI would have a meter installed on your irrigation system. This way you only be billed for water not sewage. if you look at florida statutes the City cannot charge you for services not rendered. I.E. processing wastewater not going through the sewer system. If you really want to throw a wrench in their plans contact them and arquest their policy on meter certification.Each meter has to be calibrated just like fuel pumps. If it is out of calibration the city will owe you money. There is a simple flow test you can find on the web to check your meter prior to calling the City.
Good Luck, never forget the Alamo nor 911