You ask, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!!" Yes, it's true! City Officials probably don't even realize it themselves since they seemed oblivious when asked detailed questions regarding the amortization schedule of this new proposed municipal bond/loan. Read on for more details. We did the math.
Polk City is ready to spend approximately $800,000 of tax payer money for a piece of property that according to the Polk County Property Appraiser's office is worth approximately $70,000! Here is a link to the details at the Property Appraiser's web site: Cardinal Hill Property - Parcel ID 252630000000021030 During the public comment at the end of the 2/23/11 city meeting, Laura Lambert asked the council and city attorney the question of how much the property is appraised at and how many acres the property consists of that the city is willing to pay over $800,000 for. Laura was initially answered with dead silence and then Acting City Manager/Vice Mayor Trudy Block responded with something like, "I do not feel it would be wise to talk about this at this time since the city is still in negotiations with the property owner." This was a simple question of fact and the city officials and attorney refused to answer the question. This is public record and the city has already spent tax payer money to get an appraisal on the property in 2010, so they have this information. Any time a land purchase is being considered these are questions anyone would want to know and would be entitled to know. Ms. Block has been assuring the public that the price the city will pay will be under a million dollars for a piece of property that is only 38.9337 acres and valued at $70,000 on the Polk County Tax Record!!! How is that wise use of taxpayer money? Do they really think the public would have no way to find out this information?? No wonder Ms. Block was silent and the color drained from her face when pressured to answer the question. The tension in the room was so thick that Attorney Tom Cloud felt the need to break the dead silence and started his "you may have a differing opinion argument" that he loves so much when he doesn't want to answer a direct question because he knows he's been cornered.
The "house keeping" plan to "refinance" some of the city's current debt and add several more millions is just further proof that the city officials have no common sense when it comes to business and fiscal responsibility. City Officials are suggesting that this new loan for approximately $8.3 - $8.9M, financed over 30 years, plus the roughly $6M in interest is a "good deal" which could possibly reduce the city's monthly payments compared to what the city is currently paying for the $1 M loan to the county plus the $4 M loan to SunTrust. Officials and Mr. Hartman from GAI would not disclose what interest rate they were making these assumptions at. Simple math on an amortization calculator shows that they are figuring somewhere in the neighborhood of $8.3M at 4% for 30 years or $8.5M at 4% for 30 years, coming out to roughly $6M in interest. Considering all the fees for this deal will be tacked on the bond/loan at the end, lets go with the $8.5 number to be conservative.
At no time at last night's meeting would anyone provide a straight answer of exactly how much NEW debt is being incurred. Well lets do the math:
If we add this $8.5 M, plus the $6M in interest, plus the other debt that is not being refinanced that the city is conveniently not speaking about (see the 2009 Audit on P.C.'s web page, page 36 of the PDF file Polk City 2009 FY Audit to see the list of other long term debt obligations) we are estimating that the total debt the city would then hold would be approximately $19 Million Dollars!! Congratulations Polk City Officials! You will have successfully nearly doubled the total city debt in one fail swoop! With a population of only approximately 1,685 people, $19 M in city debt works out to be around $11,275 in debt for each man, woman and child living inside city limits. How can this be considered fiscal responsibility by any stretch of the imagination?
$8.5 Million - New suggested "refinancing" bond
$6 Million - Interest on this "refinancing" bond
$1.676 Million - Existing Series 2007 Capital Improvement Revenue Bond
$2.728 Million - Existing Installment Note to Florida DEP
$63,282 - Existing Installment Note to Old National Leasing
$19 Million Total City Debt (roughly)
City Council Members, why don't you get your heads out of the sand and stop putting your blind faith in these high dollar experts who you have essentially allowed to make all major financial decisions for the city since you hired them! Can't you see that they are all long term buddies padding each others pockets at the city's expense? Now you have also agreed to pay Mr. Gerald Hartman, from GAI, engineering consulting fees on an as-needed basis, and the hourly fee schedule is only found in the little packets provided to council? His fees must be pretty steep since after repeated questioning, not once did anyone directly state how much Mr. Hartman would be charging for his services. Great example of transparent government at it's best! NOT!!
Question of the day: Would Mr. Cloud, Mr. Hartman, Mayor LaCascia, Vice Mayor Block, and Council Members Adorno and Blevin dare to invest their personal money or suggest their family members to invest their retirement funds in these junk bonds? We highly doubt it! How can they expect any financial institution in this economy to make such a financial commitment? They would be insane!!
Here is a link to the Ledger article Mr. Keven Bouffard wrote about the meeting last night. Polk City Council Moves On Debt, Utilities Page two of this article states, "The biggest items on the list for bond money, according to Hartman's proposal, are $3.8 million to refinance a $4 million loan in 2005 from SunTrust; $1.4 million for 10 additional water and wastewater capital improvements, including $565,000 on improvements to the Cardinal Hill sewage treatment plant; $897,412 million to pay off a $1 million loan to Polk County as part of the transfer of the Mount Olive water and sewer utilities; and $531,199 to pay the county impact fees the city withheld for several years through 2009." Is this a Freudian slip? The city officials have gotten so used to dealing with Millions of dollars, as if they were Thousands of dollars, even the reporters can't keep their numbers straight. Sad state of affairs!
There is a lot more information that was covered during this meeting. We will update the blog with new articles in the near future with more of this detailed information or this post would be way too long. Thank you for your continued readership!
I TRULY BELIEVE IT IS TOME FOR GOV SCOTT TO LEARN OF THIS. I HOPE THE REALTOR THAT OPENED IN POLK CITY HAS A LOT OF MONEY TO FALL BACK ON. I NEVER SEE A CAR IN HIS PLACE OTHER THEN HIS.
ReplyDeleteCant wait until 2012 when the Bozo's are out of office and the "Dissolution Team" is in. We have 1 legitimate board member, 2 crooks, and 2 puppets. It will be a sweet day when this city go's down and I cant wait to see Trudy's fake face when it happens. Mr Cloud can not save you from this one.
ReplyDeleteHow about we start a recall process ASAP on the 2 puppets before they vote for this debt. Then we don't have to wait till 2012!!!
ReplyDeleteI was at the city meeting and it was my understanding the total of 8.3 - 8.9 million includes the interest. Not add another 6 million in interest to the 8.3 - 8.9 million
ReplyDeleteI believe you misunderstood, if you thought that that the $6 Million of interest was included in the total $8.3-$8.9 Million total amount. First of all the purpose of this new bond/loan was to refinance the $4M Suntrust Loan, pay off the County roughly $1M for the Mt. Olive Spray field, repay the $550,000 in impact fees owed to the county, purchase the property for the Cardinal Hill plant for roughly $800,000, pay for re-piping to redirect wastewater flows to Cardinal Hill from Mt. Olive, road repairs following this re-piping, necessary upgrades of equipment to some parts of the Cardinal Hill plant, closing down of the Mt. Olive plant, plus other fees associated with this new loan/bond. Obviously, $8.3 to $8.9 Million, minus $6 Million in interest leaves only $2.3 to $2.9 Million. This would not even be enough to cover the Suntrust loan. Believe me, I was at the meeting also and the loan/bond they are seeking is for $8.3 - $8.9 Million plus $6 M in interest. You can check the math on the amortization schedule at this website http://www.amortization-calc.com/ This is how you can see that the 4% rate is approximately what they used for the calculations for their presentation, also. Based on the City's slow pay history, %4 may be lower than what the city will actually be able to qualify for, so it may cost even more than $6 M in interest for this loan/bond.
ReplyDeletesmells of kickbacks and money laundrying for a campaign run comming up, watch this one closely, lets see if the unions get involved we all know how this type scheme works , yes it is time for the states attorney to investigate this group in office, crooks ! need to resign now,
ReplyDeleteI was at the meeting too. The $6M interest figure on this proposed debt was not shared willingly with the public during the public comment time. It was only after repeated pressure from the person asking the question that Mr. Hartman gave up that information. Trudy was either not willing to share that "minor detail" with the rest of us, or she didn't have a clue what the total interest was over this 30 year loan.
ReplyDeleteTo Beverly Brown's comment...this $6M in interest is not what the bank is paying the city on this $8.5M loan. It's the bank's fee for loaning this money to P.C. over a 30 year period! It is extra money that comes out of our pockets. It's like buying a Cadillac that you can't afford to pay for in 6 years, so you get a loan for 30 years instead. The monthly payments will be very low, so you think you can afford it, but you'll be paying for that Cadillac long after it breaks down, and almost doubling the cost of the car.
ReplyDeletehow soon can we charter a bus and go to gov scott with all the information we have. showing up in person will show that we are concerned and something has to be done before we all work for the clowns
ReplyDeleteTo all the property owners on Steven Drive who believes their property will be effected by the Cardinal Hill "temporary" waste water plant becoming permenant. Please see this link:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.florida-eminent-domain.com/index.html
The property owners who may lose there wells and be forced to connect to the Cities water and sewer supply,may be entitled to compensation. I encourage everyone on Steven Drive to educate themselves or at least speak to a qualified legal advisor to know your rights and options under Florida law. While the residents of Steven Drive may not have a voice in Polk City politics we do not have to allow the City to run roughshod over us.
Don't delay time is not on our side in this matter. Please I emplore anyone reading this to review the information on the attached link and seek legal council. I am not an attorney nor am I suggesting a single law firm. Please pass the word.
How do we do the recall process? I am all for getting these people out of office before my grandchildrens future in Polk City is ruined. (If its not already).
ReplyDeleteThese losers that make these decisions should have to pay for all of the losses that they incur while in office . Let them put their house's.cars and all their savings on the line they would not be so quick to give the farm away if they thought that it was coming out of their pocket . I can tell you one thing their family would not have to worry about inheritance tax .I wish that when I run my company I did not have to be responsible for my decisions and when I ran out of funds that I just go to the bank get some more and let my costumers pay my way whether I gave them a service or not .
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